Sondland reverses himself on
Ukraine, confirming quid pro quo
A key figure in the Ukraine saga
revised his testimony for
impeachment investigators.
By Andrew Desiderio and Kyle
Cheney
November 05, 2019 "Information Clearing House" - Gordon Sondland, a key witness in the impeachment inquiry, revealed that he told a top Ukrainian official that hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid would “likely” be held up unless the country’s government announced investigations into President Donald Trump’s political rivals — a major reversal from his previous closed-door testimony.
The acknowledgment of a quid pro quo is an explosive shift that threatens to upend claims by the president’s allies that military aid was not used as a bludgeon to advance his domestic political interests.
In his revised testimony, released Tuesday by House impeachment investigators, Sondland said that during a Sept. 1 meeting in Warsaw, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky raised his concerns directly to Vice President Mike Pence about the suspension of military aid.
Sondland, Trump’s ambassador to the European Union, added that he later told Andriy Yermak, a top Ukrainian national security adviser, that the aid would be contingent on Trump’s desired investigations.
“After that large meeting, I now recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Sondland wrote in his addendum, which was released on Tuesday alongside a nearly 400-page transcript of his testimony.
Sondland revealed the exchange in supplemental testimony he submitted to House impeachment investigators on Monday, saying he had failed to recall the episode when he testified in person last month. Sondland, who had a direct line to Trump and was a major donor to his 2016 presidential campaign, had previously indicated he was not aware of any effort to connect military aid to Trump’s demand for politically motivated investigations.
Sondland was eager to maintain that public posture, even with other U.S. officials working on Ukraine policy.
Eight days after privately telling Yermak that military aid was contingent on Trump’s desired investigations, Sondland wrote in a text message to William Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, that Trump had been “crystal clear” that there was no quid pro quo involving military aid and publicly announced investigations. Sondland told investigators that he was simply repeating what Trump had told him.
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The transcripts released Tuesday — which included that of former U.S. special envoy Kurt Volker — paint a picture of an American president whose deep-rooted hostility toward Ukraine was evident in private conversations, including his belief that the country “tried to take me down,” in reference to a debunked conspiracy theory about the country’s involvement in the 2016 election. Trump appeared to view the election of a new Ukrainian president as an opportunity to extract political benefits.
Trump’s allies initially believed Sondland would provide exculpatory evidence to boost the president's case, but subsequent witnesses had contradicted many of Sondland’s claims — and Democratic lawmakers even questioned whether he had perjured himself, likely prompting Sondland’s addendum.
The nearly 400-page transcript of Sondland’s Oct. 17 testimony underscores the power and influence Rudy Giuliani had over U.S. dealings with Ukraine.
Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, was establishing contacts on the ground in Ukraine — including with the former top prosecutor whom U.S. officials believed was not credible — and conducting what several witnesses for the impeachment inquiry described as a shadow diplomatic effort that ran counter to U.S. goals and interests.
Sondland, for his part, said in his opening statement to impeachment investigators that he was “disappointed” Trump had directed him to involve Giuliani, but said he reluctantly agreed because the former New York City mayor was “the key to changing the president’s mind on Ukraine.”
In fact, according to the full transcript of Sondland’s testimony released Tuesday, the ambassador said he “assumed” that Giuliani’s efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden were illegal.
At least one senior official told Giuliani that he believed the allegations against Biden and his son Hunter — which form the basis of Trump’s overtures to Kyiv — were false. According to the transcript of his Oct. 3 testimony, Volker dismissed the idea that Biden pushed for the removal of a Ukrainian prosecutor in order to help his son.
“I said to Rudy in that breakfast the first time we sat down to talk that it is simply not credible to me that Joe Biden would be influenced in his duties as vice president by money or things for his son or anything like that,” Volker said. “I’ve known him a long time. He’s a person of integrity, and that’s not credible.”
In his supplemental testimony,
Sondland said he initially
believed the public declarations
for new investigations could be
made by Ukraine’s top
prosecutor, but said he later
“came to understand that, in
fact, the public statement would
need to come directly from
President Zelensky himself.”
Just three days before
Sondland’s conversation with
Yermak in Warsaw, on August 28,
POLITICO
first revealed that the
military aid had been frozen.
The transcripts released by
impeachment investigators on
Tuesday were accompanied by a
tranche of text messages
chronicling communications among
Sondland and two other senior
diplomats involved in the
Ukraine controversy — Volker and
William Taylor.
In one exchange, Volker sent
Yermak the precise language that
the U.S. wanted Zelensky to use
when he announced Trump’s
preferred investigations.
“Special attention should be
paid to the problem of
interference in the political
processes of the United States,
especially with the alleged
involvement of some Ukrainian
politicians,” Zelensky was to
say. “I want to declare that
this is unacceptable. We intend
to initiate and complete a
transparent and unbiased
investigation of all available
facts and episodes, including
those involving Burisma and the
2016 U.S. elections, which in
turn will prevent the recurrence
of this problem in the future.”
Sondland said he “always
believed that suspending aid to
Ukraine was ill-advised,” and
although he claims he did not
know why the military assistance
was initially suspended,
Sondland said he later
“presumed” that the aid “had
become linked to the proposed
anti-corruption statement.”
House Democrats launched the
impeachment inquiry in late
September after learning that a
whistleblower had raised
concerns about Trump’s posture
toward Ukraine and,
specifically, toward Zelensky
during a July 25 phone call with
his Ukrainian counterpart.
The inquiry centers on whether
Trump abused the power of the
presidency to pressure the
Ukrainians to investigate his
political rivals based on
spurious charges. Investigators
are also looking into the extent
to which military aid and a
White House meeting with
Zelensky were used as leverage
to bend the country to Trump’s
will.
Democrats appeared to zero in on
the circumstances surrounding
Sondland’s testimony — and
whether White House officials
attempted to interfere. It’s a
signal that even as they search
for evidence of Trump’s alleged
abuse of power, they’re also
compiling evidence for a
potential article of impeachment
on obstruction of Congress.
Sondland revealed that after he
was summoned to testify to
Congress, he bumped into Trump
at the White House and informed
him of his plan to speak to
lawmakers. He said Trump simply
responded “good, go tell the
truth.
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