Police State in America
Interview with Professor Francis Boyle
Francis A Boyle says 9/11 was allowed to happen, war on
terror is facilitating the downfall of The Republic,
concentration camps are in place and US citizens are the
12/23/06 "CRG" --- - Alex
Jones was joined on air this week by a leading American
professor, practitioner of and expert on international
law to discuss his detailed knowledge of the cover up of
the 2001 anthrax attacks, which he is adamant were
perpetrated by criminal elements of the US government in
an attempt to foment a police state by killing off
opposition to hardline post 9/11 legislation.
Dr Franics A. Boyle literally helped write the law with
regards to terrorism, as he was responsible for drafting
the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 that
was passed unanimously by both Houses of Congress and
signed into law by President Bush Snr.
Professor Boyle teaches international law at the
University of Illinois, Champaign. He holds a Doctor of
Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political
Science, both from Harvard University. He has also
served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty
International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia-
Herzegovina at the World Court.
The professor started off by explaining the motivation
behind the October 2001 anthrax attacks:
"After the September 11th 2001 Terrorist attacks, the
Bush administration tried to ram the USA PATRIOT Act
through Congress, that would have, if already had not,
set up a police state. And we know for a fact that the
PATRIOT Act had already been drafted and was sitting on
Ashcroft's desk as of September 10th.
Senators Daschle and Leahy were holding it up because
they realised what this would lead to, indeed the first
draft of the Patriot Act, they would have suspended the
writ of habeas corpus. And all of a sudden out of
nowhere come these anthrax attacks. And at the time I
myself did not know precisely what was going on, either
with respect to September 11th or the anthrax attacks,
but then the New York Times revealed that the technology
behind the letter to Senator Daschle. A trillion spores
per gram, special electro-static treatment.
This is super-weapons grade Anthrax that even the United
States government, in its openly proclaimed programs,
and we had one before Nixon, had never developed before.
So it was obvious to me that this was from a US
Government lab, there is no where else you could have
Dr Boyle proceeded to call a very high level official in
the FBI who deals with terrorism and counter-terrorism,
Spike Bowman, whom he had met at a terrorism conference
at the University of Michigan Law School.
He told Bowman that the only people that would have the
capability to carry out the attacks were people working
on US government programs on Anthrax and with access to
high level a bio-safety lab. Dr Boyle went through all
the names, the contractors and the labs for Anthrax work
with the FBI's Bowman.
Bowman then informed Dr Boyle that the FBI was working
with Fort Detrick on the matter, to which he responded
that Fort Detrick could really be the main problem.
It was documented at the time that the anthrax strain
used was military grade. This was widely reported in
2002 in publications such as the New Scientist.
"Soon after I had informed Bowman of this information,
the FBI authorised the destruction of the AMES cultural
Anthrax database." The Professor continued.
The destruction of the anthrax culture collection at
Ames, IA., from which the Ft. Detrick lab got its
pathogens, was blatant destruction of evidence as it
meant that there was no way of finding out which strain
was sent to who to develop the larger breed of anthrax
used in the attacks. The trail of genetic evidence would
have led directly back to a secret but
officially-sponsored US government biowarfare program
that was illegal and criminal.
"Clearly for the FBI to have authorised this was
obstruction of justice, a federal crime. That collection
should have been preserved and protected as evidence.
That's the DNA, the fingerprints right there. It later
came out of course that this was AMES strain anthrax
that was behind the Daschle and Leahy letter."
At that point Boyle says it became very clear to him
that there was a cover up in operation by the FBI. He
points out that later on on reading one of David Ray
Griffin's books on the 9/11 attacks, he discovered that
Agent Bowman was the same FBI agent who sabotaged the
FISA warrant for access to Zacarious Moussaoui's
computer, which contained information that could have
facilitated the prevention of the attacks on the World
Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Later on Bowman was promoted and given a decoration,
presumably because he did such a fine job on Moussaoui's
computer and also on the anthrax.
So it was to be that the patriot act was rammed through,
because the opposition from Leahy and Daschle, whom they
had tried to kill, disappeared. Congress and even the
House itself officially shut down for the first time in
the history of the Republic. The Senate refused to shut
down. Dr Boyle commented that he believes this to be one
of the biggest political crimes in the history of
The professor agreed that actions such as this and
legislation such as the Patriot act and the new Military
Commissions act are the precursors to a military
"And remember that the first draft of the Patriot act
that sat on Ashcroft's desk before 9/11, and also
remember that Ashcroft was flying around in a private
jet because he was told that there was going to be a
terrorist attack with airplanes, so all this had been
They were going to move to suspend the writ of habeas
corpus, which is all that really separates us from a
police state. And that is what they have done now with
respect to enemy combatants."
With regards to 9/11 itself the professor asserted that
it is clear Bush, Rice, Tennet, Ashcroft and other Bush
Administration officials all knew a terrorist attack was
coming and that the attacks were at the very least
allowed to go ahead.
"They let it happen because they wanted a war and they
wanted a police state, all the elements for a war
against Afghanistan were there in place, even the
military force in the gulf were there on the scene,
there were massive military forces in the gulf, in the
Atlantic, in the Mediterranean, in the Arabian Ocean
before September 11th poised for an attack, whether it
was going to be Afghanistan or Iraq would be decided by
Bush and the rest of them."
The professor pointed out that it is now being argued by
lawmakers that the 14th amendment does not mean what it
has been taken to mean and that under the Military
Commissions Act any US citizen can be stripped of their
citizenship and thus be labeled an enemy combatant.
"So in other words they are taken the position that in
some point in time if they want to, they can
unilaterally round up United States native born
citizens, as they did for Japanese Americans in World
War Two, and stick us into concentration camps. That is
correct. They haven't actually yet done it but my guess
is that the papers have been drawn up... and we know
that the FEMA camps are out there.
So it's clear that the Bush people, I guess they are
waiting for some other terrorist attack, another anthrax
attack, who knows what, and then they will proceed to
invoke these emergency orders."
Dr Boyle believes that the domestic police state is a
seen as a must by the neoconservatives who are pushing
for dominance in the middle east in order to quell
dissent from an American public who, the informed
majority of, clearly will not stand for such aggression
in their names.
The professor then went on to talk about the sickness of
the neoconservative sympathizers who are pushing for the
practice of torture to be made legal. Legislators such
as John Yu and Professor Goldsmith of Harvard Law
School. Dr Boyle believes that there is a move afoot to
infiltrate both the legal profession and legal education
with opinion and legislature that subverts long
established US law. His warning is stark:
"The Nazis did the exact same thing too. They had their
lawyers infiltrating law schools. Carl Schmidt was the
worst and he was the mentor to Leo Strauss, the founder
of the neoconservatives. So the same phenomena that
started out in Nazi Germany is happening here and I
exaggerate not... we could all be tortured, we could all
be treated this way."
Dr Boyle stressed that in order to seek justice over the
anthrax attacks it is vital to keep the pressure on
Senator Leahy who will apparently be becoming the chair
of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Leahy will have
subpoena power and investigative power, and if anyone
would have motivation to try to get to the bottom of the
attacks, it would be him.
Dr Boyle ended by urging readers and listeners to become
informed and spread this information. He also admitted
that in the Summer of 2004 he was interrogated by an
agent with the CIA/FBI joint terrorism task force. The
agent tried to recruit Dr Boyle as an informant to
provide the FBI with information on his Arab and Muslim
clients. When he refused the FBI placed him on all of
the government's terrorism watch lists and he now finds
it very difficult to travel in and out of the US.