Six weeks later,
Clark returned to Washington to see the same
general and inquired whether the plan to strike
Iraq was still under consideration. The
general's response was stunning:
"'Oh, it's worse
than that,' he said, holding up a memo on his
desk. 'Here's the paper from the Office of the
Secretary of Defense [then Donald Rumsfeld]
outlining the strategy. We're going to take out
seven countries in five years.' And he named
them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending
with Iran."
While Clark
doesn't name the other four countries, he has
mentioned in televised interviews that the hit
list included Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan.
Indeed, he has described this same conversation
on a few occasions over the past year, including
in a
speech at the University of Alabama in
October 2006, in an
appearance on Amy Goodman's "Democracy Now"
broadcast last March, and most recently in an
interview with CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer on
"The Situation Room." On "Democracy Now" he
spoke about the meetings and the memo in
slightly greater detail, saying that he had made
the first Pentagon visit "on or about Sept. 20."
Clark says he
didn't read the memo from Rumsfeld's office.
When the general first held it up, he remembers
asking, "Is it classified?" Receiving an
affirmative answer, he said, "Well, don't show
it to me." He also says that when he saw the
same general last year and reminded him of their
conversation, the officer said, "Sir, I didn't
show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"
During the
Blitzer interview, Clark backed off slightly,
conceding that the memo "wasn't [necessarily] a
plan. Maybe it was a think piece. Maybe it was a
sort of notional concept, but what it was, was
the kind of indication of dialogue around this
town in official circles ... that has poisoned
the atmosphere and made it very difficult for
this administration to achieve any success in
the region."