In an
exclusive and
wide-ranging
interview with
Ned Temko, Bush
defends his
legacy, issues a
stern warning to
Iran ... and
reveals his
plans for a
freedom
institute
devoted to
'universal
values'
By Ned Temko
18/06/08 "The
Guardian"
- 15/06/08 - -
-For a
political leader
who has rivalled
Gordon Brown's
vertiginous
nosedive in the
opinion polls in
the past year,
president George
W Bush looked
remarkably
untroubled by
self-doubt as he
crossed Europe
last week.
The focus back
home has shifted
to the battle
between Barack
Obama and John
McCain to
succeed him. But
Bush, on his
last European
tour as American
President, is
determined to
prosecute his
foreign policy
agenda for his
final seven
months in the
White House.
Dealing
aggressively
with Iran, and
its continuing
nuclear
aspirations, is
top of the list.
Stabilising and
rebuilding Iraq,
staying the
course in
Afghanistan and
building a
'unity' alliance
with key
European leaders
to achieve these
goals are the
other themes of
the farewell
trip.
At street level,
the president's
visit to
Slovenia,
Germany, Italy,
France and now
Britain has
sometimes had an
almost surreal
quality. It is
not just the
politicians and
pundits who seem
to have begun
shifting their
gaze to a
post-Bush era.
Despite a small
scattering of
demonstrations,
with a further
protest expected
in London, there
has been little
of the fire and
fury that
greeted him at
the height of
the controversy
over the Iraq
invasion.
On the road to
Fiumicino
airport in Rome,
where as in
other capitals
on his itinerary
the police had
far outnumbered
any
demonstrators,
one taxi driver
remarked: 'Bush
has been very
bad for my
country.' But
when asked what
he had against
the US
President, it
was not climate
change policy,
Iraq or
Guantánamo Bay:
'It's the
traffic!'
Bush's focus, as
he made clear in
a lengthy
Observer
interview before
his arrival in
London today for
talks with
Brown, has been
on forging a
broader
relationship
with Europe that
moves on from
the days of his
close
partnership with
Tony Blair. A
united front is
deemed vital to
deal with what
he sees as the
West's single
most pressing
policy challenge
- heading off
Tehran's nuclear
ambitions. 'All
options,' Bush
has stated
repeatedly,
remain 'on the
table' if
diplomacy fails
to get Iranian
president
Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad to
abandon Iran's
uranium
enrichment
programme.
On his way to
London, Bush was
pressing broadly
sympathetic
leaders in
Berlin, Rome and
Paris on that
issue, as well
as on the need
to beef up
allied support
for the battle
against the
resurgent
Taliban in
Afghanistan.
He may be on his
way out next
January,
conceivably to
be replaced by a
Democratic
candidate
fiercely
critical of his
foreign-policy
approach. But
Rome's closed
thoroughfares,
the small army
of
secret-service
agents and the
motorcade
waiting to speed
Bush to a
meeting with the
Pope after the
Observer
interview
offered a
reminder that he
still holds the
most powerful
political office
in the world.
Bush has no
regrets about
how he has used
that power.
Asked what he
thinks his
legacy might be,
he says he is
happy to await
the verdict of
history. But he
cannot resist
also offering
his own,
suggesting 'the
liberation of 50
million people
from the
clutches of
barbaric regimes
is noteworthy,
at a minimum'.
As the
jacketless
president
expanded on his
foreign policy
strategy in the
garden of the
palatial
17th-century US
ambassador's
residence on a
Rome hilltop, he
was keen to
shift the focus
away from the
prospect of
American
military action
against Iran.
His interest, he
said, was in
'results' - in
demonstrating
sufficient
Western steel,
through
toughened
economic and
financial
sanctions, to
resolve the Iran
issue
diplomatically.
The real
'options on the
table' that
should worry the
world lay
elsewhere - in
the likelihood
of moves by
Iran's Arab
neighbours to
develop nuclear
weapons of their
own. He said the
'time is now'
for the outside
world to put in
place 'diplomacy
with
consequences' to
bring Iran's
uranium-enrichment
activities to an
end, not least
because he
believed that a
new group of
European leaders
had 'gone beyond
the Iraq period'
and were engaged
with the US in
multilateral
efforts on a
range of other
issues.
In London,
however, Iraq
inevitably will
be back on the
agenda. Today
will begin for
the President
and the First
Lady, Laura
Bush, when they
meet the Queen
and Prince
Philip at
Windsor Castle,
and will end
with dinner with
the Browns. But
tomorrow - after
breakfast with
an international
Middle East
envoy named Tony
Blair - he will
have formal
Downing Street
talks with Brown
and discuss a
'timetable' for
British troop
withdrawals from
Iraq.
Asked in the
Rome interview
about popular
opposition in
Britain to the
war and his
presidency, he
replied: 'Do I
care? Only to
the extent that
it affects
people's view of
the citizens I
represent. Do I
care about my
personal
standing? Not
really.'
He remained, he
said, convinced
that Iraq, and
the world, was a
better place
without Saddam
Hussein. And he
said that while
'Presidents
don't get to do
re-dos' on
issues such as
Saddam's lack of
weapons of mass
destruction,
there was one
lesson from the
run-up to the
Iraq war that he
felt was hugely
relevant to the
standoff in
Iran.
'We didn't
realise, nor did
anyone else,'
Bush said, 'that
Saddam Hussein
felt like he
needed to play
like he had
weapons of mass
destruction. It
may have been,
however, that in
his mind all
this was just a
bluff ... that
the world wasn't
serious.'
