Take No Prisoners
Another proud moment in U.S. Military History.
U.S. Marines execute an Iraqi to the cheers of fellow marines
This video should only be viewed by a mature audience
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CNN Presents: Fit To Kill
CROWLEY: Wounded, another Iraqi writhes on the ground
next to his gun. The Marines kill him -- then cheer.
Basic U.S. policy underlying the treatment accorded EPW and all other enemy personnel captured, interned, or otherwise held in U.S. Army custody during the course of a conflict requires and directs that all such personnel be accorded humanitarian care and treatment from the moment of custody until final release or repatriation. The observance of this policy is fully and equally binding upon U.S. personnel, whether capturing troops, custodial personnel, or in whatever other capacity they may be serving. This policy is equally applicable for the protection of all detained or interned personnel, whether their status is that of prisoner of war, civilian internee, or any other category. It is applicable whether they are known to have, or are suspected of having, committed serious offenses which could be characterized as a war crime. The punishment of such persons is administered by due process of law and under the legally constituted authority. The administration of inhumane treatment, even if committed under stress of combat and with deep provocation, is a serious and punishable violation under national law, international law, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Violations of this policy, and the laws and regulations may result in an individual being prosecuted as a war criminal. Anyone observing a violation of law, or suspecting one has happened, has a positive legal obligation to report it to appropriate authorities. Failure to do so is a violation in itself. Continued
Comments from readers regarding this video.
Tom- I believe the way you present the 'shocking' video you have on your website is very irresponsible and inflammatory. The very fact that it is presented without amplifying remarks or background information, coupled with how you use 'execute' to describe the situation, illustrates how naive you are to military operations.
The current policy in Iraq is to SHOOT ON SIGHT ANYBODY
emplacing IEDs....yes, those nasty little roadside bombs that have
killed almost 200 of our service personnel. But of course, given
the very OBVIOUS leftist slant of your website, it is apparent that you
wouldn't see fit to report all the facts, choosing instead to attempt to
use such media
Forget the fact that we have build hundreds of schools, enabled democracy, re-energized the Iraqi economy, or that Saddam killed tens of thousands of people (to name a few). According to your website, a day doesn't go by when we aren't killing Afghani children or conspiring with the Israelis to take over the world.
Too bad the economy is up, and the Dems best hopes lie w/ Howard Dean...Good luck with that! Bush in 2004!
I cannot believe you want us to believe that the video
you show of the US
I too, am recently returned from seven months in Iraq, with a Division
Cavalry unit. I see nothing to defend in that video and am glad that you
have archived it so that others can see it. As a scout with over twenty years in the Army, mostly in combat units, I would say that what is
captured on the video appears to be murder and in violation of the Law
This is not how warriors behave but how thugs operate. If the Iraqi man was indeed laying in ambush or setting an IED, then it is entirely appropriate to shoot him and to shoot him until he is no longer a threat. Once he ceased combat operations however, it became the soldiers' job to treat him and give him the same aid they would have one of our wounded soldiers receive.
That's how the Law of Land Warfare works.
To use him as a target and appear so joyful about it demonstrates that murder occurred and not combat operations. That is not a reflection of how callous all the soldiers are or what is encouraged or allowed in units. That unit has a problem. Any commander that glosses over that incident is neglecting his duty.
In the opening days of the war, our medics treated many Iraqi casualties, sometimes heroically. That's what you do. Its the law. I have no love lost for Iraqis, especially after watching the ones so happy to get a handout dance so gleefully in soldier's blood.
Our troops killed plenty, engaging in combat actions. My instructions to soldiers
on missions almost always included the words - "if at anytime you feel threatened, shoot, shoot first and shoot center mass." But at no time
were any of our soldiers instructed, allowed or countenanced to murder an injured person, be he combatant or not. I took pride that my
commander insisted we "keep our mean faces on. We are not here to make
This man had attempted to engage our forces, was shot and shot bad and
eventually died. No one was happy that a human died. We understood that
if we are to expect to be treated a certain way upon injury or capture, then we must treat the enemy the same way. That's what warriors do.
Please forward all email from enlisted military personnel that believe this was not an execution or was in any way justifiable to the senators on the Senate Armed Services Committee. They need to be held accountable for this.
The most disturbing I read was Capt. James Kimber United States Marine Corps Training & Education Command Reconnaissance & Special Skills Officer.
He should be court marshaled for the remarks he made here. Regardless of a persons political affiliation and regardless of how Kimber seems to feel you were unfair for not showing what led to this it was an execution by all applicable laws of war.
His failure to recognize this as anything else means he supports executions of what should have been a prisoner or war. Our soldiers deserve to be honored when they are good soldiers and punished when they are not. We have a volunteer Army. If you join you better understand the responsibility you are taking and the laws that apply.
Sure there will be split second calls that a soldier wishes he could take back and that has to be considered. But no matter how many times you watch this video the only way you could justify this is if you support war crimes. I hope James Kimber was just blowing off steam from political views and his hatred of anyone who does not share his political affiliation and that this is not representative of the way is actually is as a soldier.
As far as the letter from the other soldier that seemed to think you posted vulgarity to be used for propaganda? If he views this video as vulgarity then blame the soldiers involved. He may think that any war crimes need to be swept under the rug and that there should not be any accountability. We have an entire administration that seems to share his belief but there will come a time of reckoning. If our country gets to the place that as a whole we support what happened in that video then we have become a terrorist nation. We need to impose punishment on those that have broke the laws or expect at some point to have a pre-emptive strike against us. Would rather root out the war criminals ourselves and show the rest of the world that we have not became a terrorist nation.
Impeaching Bush for lying and misleading us into a war would be a great start.
Remember that we applied the Geneva Conventions of War
to some Japanese
Keep trying, you will find a small group of people willing to carry your torch. A very vocal minority that includes a Hollywood star or two will sing your praises. Get a life and understand that those brave military souls in Iraq and we law enforcement officers here defend you and your constitutional rights on a daily basis.
We do not want or expect your gratification. We do not want you to thank us. We do not want you to honor us. We do not want you to buy our family dinners. We do not want you to even recognize our participation in the struggle. We will defend you regardless of your political or idealogical leanings. We want what you want. A country that is free from dictators that squash the dreams of the meek. A society that is safe from the predators who choose to prey on the weak or uninformed.
The USA is just such a place where these freedoms are realities.
What if you were in Iraq and you were criticizing the government on their treatment of criminal and political prisoners?
Perhaps you should go to Iraq and instruct our soldier on the proper way to fight a war? Oh wait you might get hurt doing that, so maybe you should just stay right where you are in safety and let them do the fighting for you. I bet if you went to a army camp and shared your ideas everybody would appreciate that. Don't forget to vote Democrat down the line on election day.
Good luck Commie
This information is very important for everyone. War is no fun nor is it glorious. These kind of incidents are more common place than people think. Every generation has seen this but we are to traumatized to speak of it even years afterwards. Those who spend time talking about it either were not there or are not normal. Those in the latter category are few and far between.
Thomas D, U....
I just watched that video and I am shocked to say the least. I would first like to direct my comment to the two "Marines" that decided to comment. First of all, you are both rear area personnel. Neither of you are frontline combatants, with possibly the exception of the combat controller, but definately not the desk jockey captain. I was a combat engineer, and a MSG. Do not sit back at your desk and defend those actions. The Army scout that stated that those were in DIRECT violation of the Laws of War were correct. This is somethign that was drilled into our heads in bootcamp, MCT, and in School. The enemy was wounded and as stated by the Geneva Convention we are bound to provide him help. That video proved that some of our troops are no better than the ones they are killing. I GUARANTEE that if video footage had been shown of Iraqi troops doing that, everyone would have lost their minds. People lost their minds when they saw a U.S. serviceman being dragged through the streets of Somalia. And he was dead already. Imagine if they would have done that to your darling Jessica Lynch. But no, the Iraqi doctors saved her. THEY SAVED HER LIFE. So, don't sit there behind your desk and try to rationalize what those "Marines" did. What's truly ironic, is that you would defend those "Marines" but any Marine under your command would probably be prosecuted under the UCMJ if they sent a dirty joke over email.
But let's look at it on a more tactical level. Should we have
saved him, we COULD HAVE
Tom, I would like to say that not all Marines are like that. In fact, most probaably arent. I would like to think that there was a reason they did what they did. I would like to know the background behind what led up to that. Of course even then, I don't think that what they did was justified. It was wrong, just plain wrong.
Thank god people like you were not around in the 1940's......but then again you might have approved of Hitler & his tactics.....
You show only sympathy for our enemies. Why don't you put up a video of Arabs celebrating when the Twin Towers fell? Why don't you put up video of the innocent victims of Arab suicide bombers? Put up some pictures of the innocent women and children that were murdered by the thousands by Saddam and his Military? How about some pictures of the executed American POW's in Iraq?
You feel sorry for an enemy solider that was trying to kill Americans, What is wrong with you people have you forgotten what kind of enemy we are dealing with? Are you sympathetic to their cause? Seems to me you want to see dead American kids.
This quote is a joke "Wounded, another Iraqi writhes on the ground next to his gun. The Marines kill him -- then cheer."
No kidding he had a gun! Read it real close, He had a gun!
Marines kill their enemies that is their job! But of course a civilian would know nothing of this. Before you pass judgment on our troops try walking in their boots. Quit standing on our troops to get your warped political message out to your misguided followers!
Cpl United States Marine Corps
I didn't see the complete video footage of this, but the guy could of had a grenade waiting for the Marines to come close to kill as many as he could. I belive this was happening at the closing to the end of the last major battle.
I didn't see the complete footage so I don't know if this is true or not but if it is it ture it reenforces my first belief about the grenade or explosive wich would be remote detonated.
"Why didn't you show the part where he is rigging an improvised explosive device to go off the next convoy that drives by it?"
Just because you are wounded does not make you are prisoner of war, once someone shoots at you, they are fair game and may kill them to eliminate the threat.
Maybe someone should let the commanding officer of the USS Juneau
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