| Multiple sources that just spoke with Haitian
President Jean-Bertrand Aristide told Democracy Now! that
Aristide says he was "kidnapped" and taken by force to
the Central African Republic. Congress member Maxine Waters said
she received a call from Aristide at 9am EST. "He's
surrounded by military. It's like he is in jail, he said. He
says he was kidnapped," said Waters. She said he had been
threatened by what he called US diplomats. According to Waters,
the diplomats reportedly told the Haitian president that if he
did not leave Haiti, paramilitary leader Guy Philippe would
storm the palace and Aristide would be killed. According to
Waters, Aristide was told by the US that they were withdrawing
Aristide's US security.
TransAfrica founder and close Aristide family friend Randall
Robinson also received a call from the Haitian president early
this morning and confirmed Waters account. Robinson said that
Aristide "emphatically" denied that he had resigned.
"He did not resign," he said. "He was abducted by
the United States in the commission of a coup." Robinson
says he spoke to Aristide on a cell phone that was smuggled to
the Haitian president.
Developing... RUSH TRANSCRIPT
AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now! I’m Amy Goodman.
Congress member Waters, can you tell us about the conversation
you just had with Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide?
MAXINE WATERS: I most certainly can and he’s anxious
for me to get the message out so people will understand. He is
in the Central Republic of Africa at a place called the Palace
of the Renaissance, and he’s not sure if that’s a house or a
hotel or what it is and he is surrounded by military. It’s
like in jail, he said. He said that he was kidnapped; he said
that he was forced to leave Haiti. He said that the American
embassy sent the diplomats; he referred to them as, to his home
where they was lead by Mr. Moreno. And I believe that Mr. Moreno
is a deputy chief of staff at the embassy in Haiti and other
diplomats, and they ordered him to leave. They said you must go
NOW. He said that they said that Guy Phillipe and U.S. Marines
were coming to Port Au Prince; he will be killed, many Haitians
will be killed, that they would not stop until they did what
they wanted to do. He was there with his with Mildred and his
brother-in-law and two of his security people, and somebody from
the Steel Foundation, and they’re all, there’s five of them
that are there. They took them where they did stop in Antigua
then they stopped at a military base, then they were in the air
for hours and then they arrived at this place and they were met
by five ministers of government. It’s a Francophone country
they speak French. And they were then taken to this place called
the Palace of the Renaissance where they are being held and they
are surrounded by military people. They are not free to do
whatever they want to do. Then the phone clicked off after we
had talked for about five…we talked maybe fifteen minutes and
then the phone clicked off. But he, some of it was muffled in
the beginning, at times it was clear. But one thing that was
very clear and he said it over and over again, that he was
kidnapped that the coup was completed by the Americans that they
forced him out. They had also disabled his American security
force that he had around him for months now; they did not allow
them to extend their numbers. To begin with they wanted them to
bring in more people to provide security they prevented them
from doing that and then they finally forced them out of the
country. So that’s where his is and I said to him that I would
do everything I could to get the word out. …that I heard it
directly from him I heard it directly from his wife that they
were kidnapped, they were forced to leave, they did not want to
leave, their lives were threatened and the lives of many
Haitians were threatened. And I said that we would be in touch
with the State Department, with the President today and if at
all possible we would try to get to him. We don’t know whether
or not he is going to be moved. We will try and find that
information out today.
AMY GOODMAN: Did President Aristide say whether or not
he resigned?
MAXINE WATERS: He did not resign. He said he was
forced out, that the coup was completed.
AMY GOODMAN: So again to summarize, Congress member
Maxine Waters, you have just gotten off the phone with President
Jean Bertrand Aristide, who said he believes he is in the
Central African Republic.
MAXINE WATERS: That’s right, with French speaking
officers, he’s surrounded by them and he’s in this place
called the Palace of the Renaissance and he was forced to go
there. They took him there.
AMY GOODMAN: What are you going to do right now?
MAXINE WATERS: I’m going to get to the State Dept to
find out what do they plan on doing with him. Do they plan on
leaving him there or are they planning on taking him to another
country? We are going to tell them we would like to see him. We
are prepared to go where he is NOW and that we are demanding
that we are able to see him and go where he is. And to negotiate
what will be done with him.
AMY GOODMAN: Did he describe how he was taken out? We
had heard reports in Haiti that he was taken out in handcuffs.
Did he…
MAXINE WATERS: No he did not say he was taken out in
handcuffs. He simply said that they came led by Mr. Moreno
followed by the marines and they said simply “you have to go!”
You have no choice, you must go and if you don’t you will be
killed and many Haitians will be killed. We are planning with
Mr. De filliped to come into Puerto Rico. He will not be alone
he will come with American military and you will not survive,
you will be killed. You’ve got to go now!
AMY GOODMAN: How did President Aristide sound? What
was the quality of his voice?
MAXINE WATERS: The quality of his voice was anxious,
angry, disturbed, wanting people to know the truth.
AMY GOODMAN: Did he say why he had not made any calls
since early on Sunday morning; that people had not been in touch
with him for more than 36 hours. Certainly this plane was
equipped with a telephone?
MAXINE WATERS: OH, I don’t think they were able to
make any calls from the plane. They were only allowed to make
calls once they landed. And I think the only call that they had
made was to her mother who is in Florida and her brother. But
they were not allowed…they had no access to telephone calls…
to a telephone on the plane.
AMY GOODMAN: What is the next step…what are you
going to do? What do you think the people in this country should
being doing about this situation in Haiti?
MAXINE WATERS: First of all I think the people in this
country should be outraged that our government led a coup de’tat
against a democratically elected President. They should call,
write. Fax with their outrage, not only to the State Dept. but
to all of their elected officials and to the press. We have to
keep the information flying in the air so people will get it and
understand what is taking place. And for those of us who are
elected officials we must not only get to the President, we must
demand that he is returned to claim his presidency if that is
what he wants. If you can recall what happened in Venezuela when
Mr. Chavez was…they tried to force him out and they had
someone step into the presidency and he had not resigned his
presidency and he got it back. I did not have that conversation
with President Aristide but we must meet with him and we must
talk with him and be prepared to protect him.
AMY GOODMAN: Congress member Maxine Waters I want to
thank you for being with us again. Congress member Waters has
just spoken with President Aristide who she says said he was
kidnapped and is now with his wife and surrounded by security in
the Central African Republic.
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